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Attorney: Board action may violate open meeting law
by Keith Strange
Staff Reporter
Aug 02, 2012 | 3314 views | 6 6 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print

DOBSON — One media law expert says the methods used by the Surry County Board of Commissioners to fill the seat of Commissioner Garry Scearce, who died on July 22, appear to be in violation of the state’s open meeting laws.

A notification was sent out to media outlets Monday saying that an announcement to fill the empty seat would be made during a press conference today at 4 p.m. at the Surry County Republican Headquarters on North South Street in Mount Airy.

The announcement of Scearce’s replacement comes weeks before the board will convene in open session to vote on the appointee.

According to North Carolina open meeting laws, which can be found in North Carolina Code section 143-318.11, “a public body may not consider the qualifications, competence, performance, character, fitness, appointment, or removal of a member of the public body or another body and may not consider or fill a vacancy among its own membership except in an open meeting.”

North Carolina code goes on to say that, “final action making an appointment or discharge or removal by a public body having final authority for the appointment or discharge or removal shall be taken in an open meeting.”

Contacted about the issue yesterday, Board Chairman R.F. “Buck” Golding declined to comment on how the board came to its decision, saying only that, “I’ll tell you tomorrow,” before abruptly hanging up the phone.

County Attorney Ed Woltz said Wednesday afternoon that the board consulted with him “regarding the procedure,” but even he doesn’t know who commissioners have selected to fill the seat.

“My understanding is that, while I wasn’t part of it, that the board consulted amongst itself one on one, which is totally permissible under the laws of the state of North Carolina,” he said, noting that as long as only two board members are present, it doesn’t count as a meeting.

“Nothing prohibits one commissioner from discussing with another commissioner whatever they’d like to discuss,” he added.

Woltz said that the board isn’t officially appointing the candidate to the seat until its Aug. 20 meeting, which means the final decision will be made during open meeting.

He said that during all the closed sessions he has attended, the issue of Scearce’s replacement hasn’t been raised.

“My understanding is that they consulted among themselves individually,” he said. “Unless you have more than two at a time and they’re carrying on county business, there is not a meeting.”

But Amanda Martin, an attorney who teaches media law and serves as general counsel for the North Carolina Press Association, said that while that is true, previous litigation indicates that the action could be in violation of open meeting laws.

She pointed to a suit litigated in Jacksonville. In that suit, a board met on a one-on-one basis to consider employee raises and then took action as a result of those one-on-one conversations.

“The court of appeals said that they couldn’t act as a result of one-on-one conversations,” she said, adding that the precedent should apply to the Surry County action as well, since they issued a press release notifying the media that they were going to make an announcement during today’s press conference.

“They’re trying to get cute by saying that this isn’t their final decision,” Martin said, “but it’s playing like the decision has been made. I would say that this is a violation of the open meeting law.”

Shortly after the press conference was announced, Commissioner Paul Johnson said the board itself is in uncharted waters, but was adamant that no one is trying to pull a fast one.

“We’re doing everything we’re doing straight by the state statutes,” he said. “Both the state and county Board of Elections have given us advice, as well as the county attorney.”

Reach Keith Strange at kstrange@heartlandpublications.com or 719-1929.

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Rasmuten
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August 02, 2012
The deed is done. Most everyone in this county knows what we have for county leadership. To call them "good 'ol boys" doesn't quite do them justice.

The question now - as I write this at 3:45 pm - just 15 minutes before their big announcement is - Who will they pick to fill the seat? Who will the other 4 be so completely comfortable with (knowing as an absolute that they won't be challenged in doing their dirty deeds by that person) WHO is air-headed enough and so full of themselves that they'll allow themselves to be incorporated and used by these 4 commissioners? WHO?

Only 15 minutes till the great unveiling.
surryman
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August 02, 2012
Who did they announce?!
emd
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August 02, 2012
This smells worse than a dead polecat on a hot August day. Of course it is a violation of the open meetings law, in spirit and in practice. Why is this bunch of good old boys so afraid of a healthy, open, honest discussion?
kubotacat
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August 02, 2012
I agree the commissioners have done so many things in the recent past that are backwards and just within the limits to keep themselves from trouble. It is as if they think the general public is oblivious to what they are doing. The current group of commissioners is no more than a group of good ol' boys that are making important decisions of our county, which are not always in the best interest of the citizens in the county. And Johnson in particularly tries in so many ways to intimidate people and make them think he has an abundance of knowledge and is powerful enough that people will not stand up to him. However on some occasions he has overstepped his boundaries by trying to force people to do what he wants through county agreements, although not knowing the county agreements in which he is referencing. And by the way is particularly funny to watch him try to bull crap his way through these conversations, and at the end he is silent because someone has pointed out to him and everyone else that he doesn't know the document that he is talking about. And when it comes to public safety, the board could not do more to keep it from progressing with the times in which we are in. Also I agree with the backroom politics article, that is exactly what our commissioners do. When will the time come that our county can get past Democrats and Republicans? Our county needs to know the true person and their beliefs, not what party you’re hanging out with. I want to know what your qualifications are, what knowledge you have to offer the county in helping the economy, what business knowledge do you have that will keep you from making bad financial decisions for the county, and what are your morals, and are you willing to stand alone on your decision because you know its right, or are you just going to go with what the rest of your party is saying is right. We no longer need these people who are going along with everyone else; we're not in high school the popularity contest is over. We need the person who is willing to stand up for what they believe in, and do it until the end by them self if that’s what it takes.
sem1948
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August 02, 2012
The voting public isn't as dumb as the county commissioners think we are. We pay attention to what your doing and if Johnson was as experienced as he claims to be this wouldn't be uncharted waters. Even the attorney is trying to help with the coverup, but that's what he gets paid for. This is only one example of why it's time for a change and we can start the movement in November.
pkent
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August 02, 2012
Tip of the iceburg. Always has been, always will be. Since the beginning of organized governance, board members have consulted with other members on their opinions on various matters to be discussed in open meetings. Of the really important matters before most publically elected boards, it has been suggested that about 95% of the time board members consult with each other one-to-one to pass on information, ask questions or test the waters of their own thinking. It's human nature. It's not all bad, but it does make a mockery out of the notion that elected officals have an open mind on matters before them in pubic meetings. Republicans do it. Democrats do it. That's just the way it works.
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